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When to lay heavy mines?

Thu, 13 May 2004 09:38

Carn

Officer Cadet 4th Year

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I've not yet played SD against humans, i intend to do so soon, but i've not yet figured out when and where to lay heavy mines.

The use of normal speed trap mines for SD are obvious, normal for detonating and speed for limiting enemy movement to w5(read calculation somewhere that w6 in sped mines is slower than w5).

But heavies cannot be detonated(that would be cruel) and go off on w7, but speed mines make shure that nobody tries w7 anyway(except real inexperienced players, but those will already fail in detonating normals).

The following uses come to my mind:

- enemy has not enough scanning and is not aware that SD ships/mines are in the area travelled - this will work only to early midgame and only a few times

- getting up a decent protection around conquered/retaken planets quickly, as speed mine layers lay rather small amounts(50) compared to heavies(200) and normal mines offer no certain protection(81 ly at w9 in normal suceeds ~15-25% ot the time, nobody would be stupid enough to try w9 in heavy minefield)

- discouraging crash sweepers, enemy sweepers will try at most w6 into mine field

- chaff sweeping is 50% more difficult due to fleet limit if there are normals, speeds and heavies compared to only normals and speeds.

- selling them to anyone paying enough(even enemies, w8 is no real hinderance)

- seldom overwhelming low beamer forces with high heavy mine laying speed

- every 3-5 games that moment of joy, when reading "fleet x stopped in heavy minefield, 1000000 damage inflicted" and kindly suggesting your enemy he should scout before sending his entire fleet at w 10 against foe with unknown PRT

But all these things are minor compared to the usefulness of speeds and normals. So my goal would be to get up any needed normal and speed field and only then i would start to build heavies and would be careful about that, because of the 512 mine fields limit.

What did i miss about heavy mines?

Carn

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		When to lay heavy mines? By: Carn on Thu, 13 May 2004 09:38
		Re: When to lay heavy mines? By: vonKreedon on Thu, 13 May 2004 10:20
		Re: When to lay heavy mines? By: Kotk on Mon, 17 May 2004 07:35
		Re: When to lay heavy mines? By: Carn on Mon, 17 May 2004 09:02
		Re: When to lay heavy mines? By: Kotk on Mon, 17 May 2004 15:15
		Re: When to lay heavy mines? By: Carn on Mon, 17 May 2004 17:45
		Re: When to lay heavy mines? By: Micha on Mon, 17 May 2004 18:29
		Re: When to lay heavy mines? By: Kotk on Tue, 18 May 2004 11:19
		Re: When to lay heavy mines? By: Carn on Tue, 18 May 2004 11:41
		Re: When to lay heavy mines? By: Kotk on Tue, 18 May 2004 12:18
		Re: When to lay heavy mines? By: Carn on Tue, 18 May 2004 12:51
		Re: When to lay heavy mines? By: Kotk on Tue, 18 May 2004 13:59
		Re: When to lay heavy mines? By: Micha on Mon, 17 May 2004 07:56
		Re: When to lay heavy mines? By: iztok on Tue, 18 May 2004 02:12
		Re: When to lay heavy mines? By: mlaub on Tue, 18 May 2004 13:04
		Re: When to lay heavy mines? By: Kotk on Tue, 18 May 2004 14:03
		Re: When to lay heavy mines? By: mlaub on Tue, 18 May 2004 15:37
		Re: When to lay heavy mines? By: Kotk on Wed, 19 May 2004 03:58
		Re: When to lay heavy mines? By: wizard on Wed, 19 May 2004 08:32
		Re: When to lay heavy mines? By: mlaub on Wed, 19 May 2004 14:49
		Re: When to lay heavy mines? By: Robert on Sat, 16 October 2004 13:01
		Re: When to lay heavy mines? By: iztok on Sat, 16 October 2004 14:05
		Re: When to lay heavy mines? By: Staz on Sat, 16 October 2004 17:04
		Re: When to lay heavy mines? By: Micha on Sat, 16 October 2004 18:04
		Re: When to lay heavy mines? By: iztok on Sat, 16 October 2004 20:13
		Re: When to lay heavy mines? By: Staz on Sun, 17 October 2004 07:10
		Re: When to lay heavy mines? By: Robert on Sun, 17 October 2004 07:34
		Re: When to lay heavy mines? By: Robert on Sun, 17 October 2004 11:06
		Re: When to lay heavy mines? By: Staz on Sun, 17 October 2004 13:55
		Re: When to lay heavy mines? By: Robert on Mon, 18 October 2004 02:35
		Re: When to lay heavy mines? By: Carn on Mon, 18 October 2004 06:16
		Re: When to lay heavy mines? By: Staz on Mon, 18 October 2004 06:31
		Re: When to lay heavy mines? By: iztok on Mon, 18 October 2004 06:59
		Re: When to lay heavy mines? By: Robert on Sun, 17 October 2004 04:35
		Re: When to lay heavy mines? By: iztok on Mon, 18 October 2004 06:16
		Re: When to lay heavy mines? By: Robert on Mon, 18 October 2004 08:24
		Re: When to lay heavy mines? By: iztok on Mon, 18 October 2004 09:41
		Re: When to lay heavy mines? By: mlaub on Wed, 19 May 2004 14:23
		Re: When to lay heavy mines? By: multilis on Mon, 18 October 2004 14:30

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