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SS research bonus

Fri, 25 July 2003 22:31

Hatterson

Warrant Officer
Past Weekly Puzzle Master

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Registered: May 2003
Location: NY, USA

I just posted something in the FreeStars discussion and I made me think that some people might be interested in this. It is nothing complicated and many people have proably already figured this out, but I will post it just in case people are wondering anyway.

Since SS races get added research to the tune of one half the average spent by all races in that field that year they end up getting a bonus off of their own research. This bonus increases as the number of players decreases because their own research is affecting the overall average more. Also an SS race with Generalized Research gets a double bonus. Here is how much the SS race's own research only helps them.

Total # Races | % increase in research
2...........................25.00
3...........................16.66
4...........................12.50
5...........................10.00
6...........................8.33
7...........................7.14
8...........................6.25
9...........................5.55
10.........................5.00
11.........................4.55
12.........................4.16
13.........................3.85
14.........................3.57
15.........................3.33
16.........................3.13

Therefore a SS race with GR in a 2 player universe ends up getting 156.25 % of the resources they spend dedicated to research.

"Don't be so humble - you are not that great. " - Golda Meir (1898-1978) to a visiting diplomat

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Re: SS research bonus

Sat, 26 July 2003 11:38

Sinla

Warrant Officer

Messages: 132
Registered: February 2003
Location: the Netherlands

Hatterson wrote on Sat, 26 July 2003 04:31

Therefore a SS race with GR in a 2 player universe ends up getting 156.25 % of the resources they spend dedicated to research.

But not all in the same field!
An SS in a universe with just the two of them and GR gets only 50% * 1.25 = 62.5% of it's researchbudget dedicated to his 'mainfield', and then only if the other one is researching that same field...

That makes it a bit more difficult to reach, say, weap26 or cons 26. Not to mention GR means there ar researchpoints going to 'useless' fields in the middle/endgame (Bio past 4, prop past 12 and so one). So IMO 156.25% is correct in a way, but there are some hickups.

my 2 cents

If you can't beat me... Run away...

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Re: SS research bonus

Sat, 26 July 2003 14:08

Hatterson

Warrant Officer
Past Weekly Puzzle Master

Messages: 121
Registered: May 2003
Location: NY, USA

Sinla wrote on Sat, 26 July 2003 11:38

But not all in the same field!

Quite true. I was refering to the total resources spent on research in all fields combined. Here is the breakdown for what fields get what research.

As you said...Main field: 62.5%
All other fields: 18.75%
Total: 156.25%

Sinla wrote on Sat, 26 July 2003 11:38

That makes it a bit more difficult to reach, say, weap26 or cons 26. Not to mention GR means there ar researchpoints going to 'useless' fields in the middle/endgame (Bio past 4, prop past 12 and so one)

This is one reason that I don't like GR. It is good if you are trying to get all fields to 26, but who is actually going to try that in a game. The only time I use GR is when I am playing against the computer because it handicaps your increase in technology and makes the game a little closer. It still takes quite a bit to have the computer be anything more than a minor pest.

"Don't be so humble - you are not that great. " - Golda Meir (1898-1978) to a visiting diplomat

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Re: SS research bonus

Sat, 26 July 2003 21:52

Sotek

Chief Warrant Officer 2

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Registered: November 2002

Just noting that the spying on yourself is completely unaffected by anything the other races do save for existance.

They could be researching /nothing/ and you'd get the exact same bonus from spying on yourself.

Now, if they're doing things, there's other bonuses, but...

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Re: SS research bonus

Sun, 27 July 2003 10:52

LEit

Lt. Commander

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Registered: April 2003
Location: CT

Sinla wrote on Sat, 26 July 2003 11:38

Just a side note: SS probably wants bio 10 for the robber baron scanner. I still don't think GR is a good idea.

- LEit

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