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Re: ED question

Wed, 04 June 2008 04:55

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magic9mushroom wrote on Wed, 04 June 2008 10:40

Can it stop slow ships? Freeze them?

Movement in battle can't drop below 1/4.

mch

Re: ED question

Wed, 04 June 2008 14:13

LEit

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Minimum speed is 1/2 not 1/4.

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Re: ED question

Wed, 04 June 2008 15:33

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LEit wrote on Wed, 04 June 2008 20:13

Minimum speed is 1/2 not 1/4.

DOH!

Of course you are right.

mch

Re: ED question

Wed, 11 June 2008 23:24

magic9mushroom

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And what about against WM ships? Can it drop them to 1/2 too or will they always get boosted back to 1?

Re: ED question

Wed, 11 June 2008 23:52

LEit

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Test it...
It's been a while since I tested it, but I'm pretty sure that the WM bonus is applied first, so the minimum speed is .5

I'm not sure where the weight factor comes in, but I think it's either at the same times as the WM bonus, or after it. In other words a heavily loaded WM ship will have speed of .5

That's how it's done in FreeStars at least, and I'm pretty sure it was tested before being coded.

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Re: ED question

Thu, 12 June 2008 05:35

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LEit wrote on Thu, 12 June 2008 05:52

Test it...
It's been a while since I tested it, but I'm pretty sure that the WM bonus is applied first, so the minimum speed is .5

As far as I can remember this is correct. First +0,5 for WM, after that comes the ED reduction.

mch

Re: ED question

Thu, 12 June 2008 06:51

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I concur since with ED max WM speed is 2.

Re: ED question

Wed, 29 July 2009 22:42

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In the other thread about ED's. It was 'confirmed' the max speed of any fleet, WM included, would be 1.5.

Which is correct?

Re: ED question

Sun, 09 August 2009 12:13

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Dude wrote on Thu, 30 July 2009 04:42

In the other thread about ED's. It was 'confirmed' the max speed of any fleet, WM included, would be 1.5.

Which is correct?

Without testing: first +0.5 for WM, next -1 for ED. Means 1.5 is correct.

WM ship with 2 moves:
2 +0.5 = 2.5
2.5 -1 = 1.5

WM ship with 2.5 moves:
2 +0.5 = 2.5 (can't get higher than 2.5)
2.5 -1 = 1.5

mch

Re: ED question

Fri, 17 December 2010 05:50

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Micha wrote on Sun, 09 August 2009 09:13

Dude wrote on Thu, 30 July 2009 04:42

...the max speed of any fleet, WM included, would be 1.5.

Which is correct?

Without testing:...
mch

I ran a few speedy tests. It seems to me that combat speed is determined in the order:
1) ship design �-2�
2) potentially reduced by cargo weight but not bellow �
3) potentially increased by maneuvering jet/ overthruster/ WM PRT but not above 2�
4) Potentially reduced by energy dampener but not bellow �

So a hull design that just meets 2�, fielded by a WM can maintain this speed after taking on cargo that would otherwise reduce speed to 2. A non-WM could add two overthruster (seemingly superfluous in the ship & starbase designer) and maintain speed with cargo which would otherwise reduce it by 1. But neither WM PRT or added overthruster will allow a ship in combat where an energy dampener is present, to exceed 1�.