2460 Borg talk future |
Fri, 30 July 2004 22:08 |
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Preface
posting password
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believe was in-game message 2422
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names
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A - Aurelians
B - Borg
Dc - Decepticons
Dj - Djurids
Gb - Goober
Gd - GoldDigger
K - Kotosians
R - Runabout
X - Species X
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status quo may make unhappy
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A, R, K may not enjoy being slaughtered
Dj likely wants active hand in 'revenge'
Gb likely will turn on Borg in future but unlikely to have Gd or X backing up which means bad shape
Dc either wants to leave game or play (haven't heard from him in long time)
Gd, X likely want chance to win without big backstab
Borg does not like requiring others to backstab to have chance at winning
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private info
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Borg have policy of confidentiality of others private communications. Yet also must share what believe others would not mind shared and useful.
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[Updated on: Fri, 30 July 2004 22:33] Report message to a moderator
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Re: 2460 Borg talk future |
Fri, 30 July 2004 22:46 |
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Chapter 1
NAP
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Believe no NAP between B and Gb. Borg was agreeable to 5 year but Goober wanted till 2460, negotiations never went further
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Main
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B policy of not suprise attacking even if no NAP. (joys of extra honourable personna)
Gb may wish to attack B as otherwise future situation likely poor.
A+R+K may wish cooperation with Gb, though with likely 3 NAPs already broken trust will be difficult
X noting Gb set X to neutral, minefield collision likely will be setting Gb to neutral
Possible Gb will also lose friend status from Gd, possible hostillities between { Gb } and { Gd and/or X }
Likely B will face attack from Gb as just put 'Kick me' sign on B behind
Fleeing B ships may begin sweeping Gb minefields as part of escape/survival
B may begin helping Dj and/or Dc, A now unlikely to help Dj
Other wars may break out immediately as big North vs South conflict
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Re: 2460 Borg talk future |
Fri, 30 July 2004 23:03 |
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Chapter 2
Analysis
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Borg, Goober likely superpowers
Others may try to be lower key in wars and hope to take advantage if superpowers go to war
North likely stronger but South have mineral fountain
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Possible Mistakes
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Attack on Dc by R, K though easy and successful may have been unprofitable as in same time Gb, B seem to have grabbed much more empty in centre than R + K gained through war
Gb breaking NAP with Dj, gate in attack though strategically successful was likely much more diplomatically expensive. Some planets+assistance Gb would have gained from others was lost. End game may be hardest price diplomatically.
Possible this set of postings by B may be viewed later as Borgs big mistake. After game can discuss in more detail reasons why.
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Others
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Opinions of others welcome.
Would be nice to know if Dc wishes to play or leave game. Transfered some old penn scans to Dc so at least not completely blind to situation. Perhaps Dc can give to Dj if wishes to leave game. [Edit: Somehow didn't save game after set of old scanner transfers to Dc]
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[Updated on: Fri, 30 July 2004 23:51] Report message to a moderator
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Re: 2460 Borg talk future |
Sat, 31 July 2004 13:44 |
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Borg not genocidal or warmongers
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Any including current enemies may ask/join collective
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IF others at some point want game over due to see position hopeless or other games/real life busy THEN can vote game over
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Re: 2460 Borg talk future - general |
Sun, 01 August 2004 14:59 |
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Quote: |
The game hasn't really got going for me yet.
I'd like to continue, even if it means I'm the next to be splatted.
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"end game", in contrast to "early game", "mid game" -> time for major plays coming down rather than end of game
Borg working on making game interesting. Part of honour personna is looking after interests of others even when own may be hurt.
Goober believes NAP in place (Borg had thought Goober meant 2460 as precondition to 5 year, Goober had thought accepted 5 year). Borg offered Goober chance to cancel NAP and attack, but Goober prefers continued NAP for now.
Of course GoldD, X can vastly influence game. Borg well aware of Robber Barrons. Borg list names in alphabetical order rather than for showing order of influence. In crazy game like this even possible Borg and Goober will join together in mutual defence to face aggression of rest.
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Re: 2460 Borg talk future |
Mon, 02 August 2004 13:07 |
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Borg trying for interesting end game or vote over otherwise
Current diplomatic summary:
A+R+K
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quiet, perhaps plots turning, or watch and wait, or hoping to be taken out.
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Borg,GoldD,Goober,X
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talk nice, perhaps plots turning
Goober getting married soon (congrats again), happy to see game voted over
X set up well but never got a chance to really play, wants game to continue
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Dc, Dj
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fairly quiet but still around, wants unknown
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Suggested proceed:
See what plots brew in next few turns. Borg will focus on Aurelians as prime enemy (who wants to fight) unless backstabbed. Possible someone/group will non-backstab but give notice of wanting war against Borg.
If we get desire instead to quit from majority then can...
BUT give other option
IF Borg manage to grow strong enough as challenge for rest AND unanamous desire/approval from others THEN
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Borg collective taken over by strong willed Borg Queen or assimulated Klingon or Alien King and switch from honourable industrialist TO xenophobic warmonger
IF Aurelians, Dc still around THEN will require A to give orbital coloniser to Dc for proceed, and Dc becomes part of Empire (perhaps strong willed alien/klingon taking over collective)
Dj would be given choice of initial 'stop the Borg' or later 'stop the Goober' personnas he has played if still around
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Re: Borg |
Tue, 03 August 2004 16:59 |
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True-Chaos | | Crewman 1st Class | Messages: 26
Registered: October 2003 Location: Canada | |
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I find it most likely that the Borg post are just trying to turn people against each other in hopes that people will leave him alone. It's easy to see really, him bringing up `problems` with the relationships of other races, yet saying the he would ally with anyone thats willing...
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Re: Borg |
Tue, 03 August 2004 18:08 |
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Lack email addresses for R+K. Sent every email to Sotek (who is suppose to be allies with both) hoping he would forward.
starsborg@yahoo.com email me so I can email U.
From Borg limited view, felt like Sotek was saving self for good end game fight while both of U were getting ready to quit.
From discussion of Decepticons getting hammered, recall how U said "looking for a challenge", and that Dec got hammered because no defences, etc. Now Borg seeing important planets with no defences or setup to lift pop out of way from Goober packets despite what should have been many years of warning.
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On a side note was one minor accidental combat with K forces last turn due to Borg rushing turn and sending minesweeper which had previous job of keeping shipping lanes open. Borg also mucked up a combat in Aurelian territory as well with most of fleet going 1 ly away from battle.
If U wish to stick in game and create challenge rather than drop then say so+do!
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2473 and all's well |
Wed, 08 September 2004 06:02 |
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mazda | | Lieutenant | Messages: 655
Registered: April 2003 Location: Reading, UK | |
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All are to just sit and watch while the meek Species X take on the mighty Borg.
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